Rashi-Is-Simple Mailing List (C) Dr Russell Jay Hendel, 1999 Http://www.shamash.org/rashi/ Volume 2 Number 4 Produced May. 04 1999 Topics Discussed in This Issue ------------------------------ v3q19-18 Question from Chaiim Brown on Love thy neighbor v3-26-14 The principle of development by CLIMAX & its use v3-25-1 Where were Torah details given? Is there controversy? #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# (C) Dr Hendel, 1999 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* v0501 Highlights * HAPPY LAG BAOMER--The question from Chaiim Brown on LOVE THY neighbor is most appropriate since this Verse is associated with Rabbi Akiva who is one of the focuses of LAG BAOMER * I bring attention to our first examination of a new principle: How phrases develop by CLIMAX (v3-26-14) * I also bring attention to the famous Rashi on v3-25-1. Were the details of the Torah given at Sinai or later? This is usually considered a controversy. The sources and lists I bring down suggest otherwise (that is the controversy existed but was settled). Thus the methods presented in v3-25-1 are very important for all students of talmudic controversy. #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# (C) Dr Hendel, 1999 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* VERSE: v3q19-18 Love thy neighbor as thyself From: C1A1Brown@aol.com To: rjhendel@juno.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:49:07 EDT Have barely had time as of late to look at the digest carefully, so I apologize if you've treated this Rashi and I missed it. FAmous pasuk - v'ahavta l'reacha kamocha, and an equally famous RAshi 'Amar R' Akiva zeh klal gadol baTorah'. I have always been bothered what is the difficulty in the verse that compels Rashi to make this comment. Even were you to take the position that there need not be a question, what list can you draw up? RAshi here seems to be doing nothing more than offering a midrashic mussar statement. -Chaim B. #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# (C) Dr Hendel, 1999 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* VERSE: V3a26-14 v3a26-14 But if you don't EVEN LISTEN to me v3b26-14 & don't PRACTICE all these commandments v3a26-15 & if MY statues are used for RIDICULE & ENTERTAINMENT v3b26-16 & if MY COURT DECISIONS are loathesome to you v3c26-16 TILL you DON'T HELP OUT in doing v3d26-16 MY commandments v3e26-16 TILL you annul my convenant RASHI TEXT: [Moderator: The Torah uses the principle of CLIMAX The seven phrases show a development of evil. The CAPPED words above have the following nuances:] v3a26-14 Don't LISTEN = Don't study v3b26-14 don't PRACTICE = Don't obey v3a26-15 RIDICULE & ENTERTAINMENT= Ridicule to others v3b26-16 COURT DECISIONS = COURT DECISIONS v3c26-16 DON'T HELP OUT = DON"T participate in communal performances v3d26-16 MY commandments = You deny they come from God v3e26-16 TILL you annul my convenant = Total blasphemy BRIEF BUT COMPLETE NARRATIVE EXPLANATION: Rashi Is Simple but subtle. The two verses with the 7 Rashis have ONLY ONE GUIDING PRINICPLE: Namely the principle of CLIMAX. This principle states as follows: >>A group of 4 or more phrases >>that all basically mean the same >>thing MUST be translated using >>principles of increasing climax. The principle is simple but its application is subtle. We must carefully distinguish between what is PSHAT and what is DERASH. How so? If 5 people examine the above 2 verses they might come up with 4-6 translations. This obscures the fact that they ALL agree that the verses are guided by the principle of CLIMAX What they disagree on is HOW this principle should be implemented. Furthermore most groups of people usually agree on MOST of the nuances--they however can get bogged down on a few of them. My own custom when I teach such things is to have each student develop their OWN list of development and then have the class share their ideas. Students are surprised how much they agree and are also surprised on what they disagree. This principle permeates Tnach. {LIST1} gives some examples from Psalms showing the power of such translations. Having said the above generalities let us proceed and interpret the particular phrases that occur in these two verses. Four subtleties of style motivated the 7 Rashis: ---Subtlety #1: 3-26-14 uses 2 verbs: >>LISTEN vs >>DO. The nuances are obvious: >>LEARNING vs >>PRACTICE. These nuances are also acceptable as translations. ---Subtlety #2: 3-26-14 vs 3-26-15 uses 2 syntax orders: In 3-26-14 it is the VERBS that come first >>(DO--COMMANDMENT) while in 3-26-15 it is the NOUNS >>(STATUES DESPISE) that come first. In 3-26-14 the emphasis is on the ACTIVITIES: They don't LISTEN or DO. By contrast in 3-26-15 the emphasis is on the vulnerability of individual commandment classes. JUSTICE COMMANDMENTS are typically despised by rediculing rendered decisions of particular courts as being politically motivated and not based on law. STATUES are typically rediculed in social circles as examples of irrationality. I have taken the poetic lisence of adding REDICULE & *ENTERTAINMENT* to emphasize that the redicule is with other people. But the Rashi is learnt from the word order. ---Subtlety #3: 3-26-14 uses the phrase >>"THE commandments" while 3-26-15 continually uses the phrase >>"MY commandments". (MY statues, MY judgements, MY commandments). Thus the emphasis is that the redicule is not directed on the COMMANDMENTS but on the GOD who gave them. Notice how the nuance is extracted because of the REPEATED use of MY in one verse vs its absence in the other verse. ---Subtlelty #4: The first few phrases use the introduction >>"& IF" while the last two phrases use the introduction >>"UNTIL". The emphasis is one of climax--total denial and blasphemy is committed. A summary of these 4 subtleties is presented in {LIST2} while {LIST3} shows how these subtleties are used to achieve climax. Again: Rashi derives the nuances from the principle of CLIMAX which asserts that the phrases MUST BE INTERPRETED climatically. GIVEN this premise the subtleties then help SUGGEST how this climax is achieved. It is irrelevant if the subtleties do NOT always mean the same things. They mean them here because of the CONTEXT which requires a climatic development. This is an important principle in Tnach and can save much aggravation in understanding Chazal. As a final example we note that "You don't do these commandments" in 3-26-14 refers to an individual not doing these commandments while "Until you don't do my commandments" in 3-26-15 refers to a community not participating with each other in communal observances. Why should the same phrase be interpreted once as refering to individuals and secondly as referring to the community? The answer does NOT lie in the phrases but rather in the use of the principle of CLIMAX. 3-26-14 refers to the individual while 3-26-15 refers to the community (Possibly because the phrase "loathe court decisions" seems to refer to the community). It is CLIMAX that determines meaning. COMMENTS ON RASHI'S FORM: LISTS {For ADVANCED students and for those with more time}: {LIST1} {Some examples of climax from the Psalms} PS 1: ==== Prosperous is the person who did not WALK in the counsel of the wicked did not STAND in the path of the sinner did not SIT in the sitins of the mockers But his DESIRE is in Gods law and his MURMURINGS are in God's laws. PS 2: ===== Why are the Goyim TUMULTUOUS why do the nations SPIT MURMURS The leaders STAND The superpowers COALITION Let us break his REIGNS (King Mesiah's cords) and throw away his CORDS PS 6: ===== Don't REBUKE me Don't DISCIPLINE me PITY me HEAL me RESTORE MY SOUL SAVE ME {LIST2} {3 subtleties in verses} Verb-Object*1 THESE *2 IF *3 vs vs vs PHRASE Object-Verb MY Till ==================== ============= ======== ======= Dont listen Verb Object*1 If *3 Dont do Verb Object*1 These *2 If *3 Despise statues Object Verb*1 My *2 If *3 Redicule judgements Object Verb*1 My *2 If *3 Don't do Till *3 my commandments My *2 Annul convenant My *2 Till *3 FOOTNOTES: ========= *1 Listen to me Don't do these commandments vs In my statues you show despisement In my judgements you loathe *2 Don't do THESE commandments vs MY statues despise MY judgements loathe MY convenant *3 if you don't listen if you don't do if you despise... vs till you don't do... till you ... {LIST3} {Attributes by which CLIMAX principle is achieved} GENERAL PERSONAL TOWARDS LAW ACTIVITY ATTACK vs vs vs PHRASE SPECIFIC COMMUNAL TOWARDS GOD ====== ======== ======== =========== Dont listen Activity Personal Against law Dont do Activity Personal Against law Despise statues Specific Communal Against God Redicule judgements Specific Communal Against God Don't do Communal Against God my commandments Against God Annul convenant Against God CROSS REFERENCES: ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: RULE CLASSIFICATION {See the web site for comparable examples}: CLIMAX CLIMAX CLIMAX CLIMAX CLIMAX CLIMAX CLIMAX #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# (C) Dr Hendel, 1999 *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* VERSE: v3-25-1 v3-25-1 And God spoke to Moses WHILE IN MOUNT SINAI to say.. RASHI TEXT: v3-25-1 Why is MOUNT SINAI mentioned by these Shmitah laws. To teach you that just as the Shmitah laws had both their general principle and details mentioned in Sinai so too did all laws have their general principles and details mentioned in Sinai. [Moderator: Rashi continues with some further observations which will be explained below. For purposes of brevity we have cited the main idea only] BRIEF BUT COMPLETE NARRATIVE EXPLANATION: This is one of those Rashis whose simplicity can be understood at various levels. THE SIMPLE LEVEL Many Torah paragraphs begin: (See {LIST1}) >>And God cited to Moses ***** ** ***** ***** to say to others In 3-25-1 we have >>And God cited to Moses WHILE IN MOUNT SINAI to say to others Notice the extra words: WHILE IN MOUNT SINAI So indeed, Rashi is simple. There is deliberate deviation from the normal introduction style to emphasize that EVEN SHMITAH had all its details given in Mount Sinai. And similarly all commandments had their details given at Mount Sinai. I say EVEN SHMITAH since many commandments HAD to be given with details in Sinai since they had to be immediately performed. For example, all the monetary laws governing renting, loaning etc were given in detail (2-22-6:14) since the Jews needed regulations to fix conventions and govern disputes. However the real time to observe Shmitah--the law of 7th year rest for the land--was when the Jews entered Israel, not at Mount Sinai. So if even the Shmita details were given at Sinai certainly the details of other commandments were given at Sinai. THE INTERMEDIATE LEVEL We can ask for a list of verses where the Shmitah laws are mentioned As {LIST2} shows they are mentioned GENERALLY in 2-23-11, after the giving of the 10 commandments at MOUNT SINAI.They are also mentioned in DETAIL in the book of Leviticus which according to 3-1-1 was given to Moses after the Temple Tent was built up (not in Sinai but in the Temple Tent). So it looks like the GENERAL idea of the commandments was said at SINAI but the DETAILS were given in the TEMPLE TENT. So Rashi Is Simple---3-25-1 emphasizes that everything said in the TEMPLE TENT was also said at SINAI. And this generalizes for all commandments. THE ADVANCED LEVEL We can ask for a list of lists---a table whose rows represent commandments and whose columns represent SINAI vs TEMPLE TENT. The general principle is that commandments stated in Exodus are stated after the Decalog given at Mount Sinai. By contrast commandments stated in Leviticus were stated after construction of the Temple Tent (3-1-1). We immediately see that many commandments are mentioned in both places: Both in Exodus and Leviticus; both at Sinai and in the Temple Tent. For example the morning offering (2-29-38) the general prohibition of stealing (on the so called 2nd side of the decalog) and adultery (also in the decalog in 2-20) are all mentioned in Exodus at Sinai. Notice how these 3 laws are only mentioned generally-- a typical example or general category is given--the morning offering but not other offerings; stealing in general; adultery but not other sexual prohibitions. It is easy to explain this GENERAL or TYPICAL EXAMPLE approach---the morning offering HAD to be offered so mention it immediately but do not burden people with further details. Similarly only adultery the only natural incest was mentioned but the details of other incest laws are not mentioned. We could conclude that laws were mentioned GENERALLY OR BY TYPICAL NEEDED EXAMPLES in Sinai. These same 3 laws are repeated in much greater detail in Leviticus at the Temple Tent. The sacrifices have 8 chapters (3-1 thru 3-8). Stealing now has a whole chapter (3-19) which gives many types of stealing (e.g. witholding wages or denying receiving a rental... thefts where the thief did NOT initiate the stealing but rather refuses restitution). Similarly the incest laws now have a whole chapter (3-18). We could conclude that the DETAILS of commandments were given in the TEMPLE TENT in Leviticus while the GENERALITY or TYPICAL NEEDED EXAMPLES were given in Exodus at Sinai. Indeed, sacrifices seems to clinch this point of view. Sacrifices occupy 8 chapters. They begin with a statement that they are at the TEMPLE TENT (3-1-1) but conclude with a statement that they were said at SINAI(3-7-38). Thus the Torah seems to affirm that GENERALITIES were stated at Sinai AS NEEDED and Details were stated later on. See {LIST3} for a succinct summary. This point of view was vigorously defended by Rabbi Yehuda (Zevachim 115). And the examples do seem to support him. However Rabbi Akivah suggested that both GENERALITIES and DETAILS were given at SINAI. The clinching proof is the SHMITAH LAWS. They are said GENERALLY in Exodus 2-23-11 and while they are repeated in Leviticus in detail it explictly says (3-25-1) that these details were ALREADY GIVEN AT SINAI. Furthermore UNLIKE sacrifices where you had to speak about the morning offering which was offered daily and unlike incest laws where you had to speak about adultery (whose desire is natural) you DID NOT have to speak about ANY ASPECT of the Shmitah laws. There is no reason for creating a GENERAL-DETAIL dichotomy. The Torah explicitly says ITS DETAILS were given at Sinai. We immediately conclude that both the GENERALITIES and DETAILS of Shmitah was stated at Sinai and consequently this applies to the other commandments (the three commandments given above are good examples). [This way of taking RABBI AKIVA vs RABBI YEHUDA was suggested by the Malbim. The talmud simply says they disagreed whether GENERALITIES and SPECIFICS were both mentioned in SINAI or was it GENERALITIES at SINAI and SPECIFICS at TEMPLE TENT. The Malbim however points out that without Shmitah there is no way to resolve the controversy. However according to the Malbim the Shmitah verse resolves the controversy...both DETAILS and GENERALITIES were given at Sinai. Thus this analysis thru lists becomes a paradigm of how to read Talmudic controversy. Very often a statement of controversy is not a statement that two people disagreed FOREVER but rather that they disagreed for a LONG TIME UNTIL they finally found a convincing proof. I hope that this Malbim (please read it) encourages deeper and more cautious analysis of Talmudic controversy among serious Rabbinic students] Two supplemental comments should be made: First we can directly ask for the list of places where the Torah Laws were given. We see they were given in 3 places: Sinai (2-19-1) the Temple-Tent (3-1-1) and Arvoth Moav (4-35-1). Exodus has the Sinai laws; Leviticus has the Temple-Tent laws; and Deuteronomy has the Arvoth-Moav laws. {LIST4} The Shmitah laws are mentioned in all 3 places {LIST2}. Just as the details of the Shmitah laws do not appear to be mentioned in 2-23-11 but nevertheless according to 3-25-1 are mentioned there, so too were the details repeated in 5-15-1:6 even though they do not appear to be mentioned there. And similar comments apply to all laws. Thus Rashi extends the deriviation of the Sifrah from Sinai-(Temple- Tent) to Sinai-(Temple-Tent)-(Arvoth-Moav). (This explains the last clause in Rashi). Secondly I offer my own thoughts on why the Torah was repeated alltogether 3 times. We can use the analogy of a Full Professor an ordinary doctorate and a graduate student. The full professor can grasp a new idea quickly. The doctorate person may need a few days or weeks. The graduate student may need a few months or years. Moses, who was King of Ethiopia for 40 years and well versed in legal systems could learn the whole Talmud and Shulchan Aruch in 40 days. Moses was like a full professor. Aaron and his students who regularly dealt with people were like people with doctorates. They conceivably may have had to take up to 5 years to learn many of these laws (See 4-8-23:26). The ordinary Jews were like graduate students. They took 40 years to learn everything. Hence the repetition of the law in Sinai (40 days), in the Temple Tent (5 years) and in the Arvoth Moav (after 40 years). Thus the Torah teaches us principles of teaching---a person should be prepared to be patient with his slower students (who take 40 years vs 40 days). It also allows us to answer the obvious question of Rabbi Yehuda to Rabbi Akiva:"If all details of the Torah were given at sinai (3-25-1) then why does the Torah give generalities at Sinai (e.g. 2-23-11). Why not simply give the details once WITHOUT the generalities?" Again: The Torah teaches us principles of teaching---the idea of stating a generality first and then details is called SPIRAL CURRICULUM. It is a powerful effective teaching tool and would account for its frequent use in the Torah. COMMENTS ON RASHI'S FORM: LISTS {For ADVANCED students and for those with more time}: {LIST1} {Introductions to Biblical Chapters} VERSE TEXT ===== ==== 3-14-1 And God cited to Moses to say to others 3-20-1 And God cited to Moses to say to others 4-1-48 And God cited to Moses to say to others 4-16-1 And God cited to Moses to say to others 3-25-1 And God cited to Moses AT MOUNT SINAI to say to others {LIST2} {References to Shmitah in the Bible} VERSE BOOK PLACE WHERE SAID CONTENT ===== ==== ================ ======= 2-23-11 Exodus Sinai (2-19-1) Shmitah 3-25-1 Leviticus Temple Tent (3-1-1) Shmitah 5-15-1 Deuteronomy Arvoth Moav (5-1-1) Shmitah {LIST3} {Commandments repeated in several places} COMMANDMENT STATED STATED STATED STATED IN SINAI IN EX *1 IN IN LEV TEMPLE *2 TENT =========== ======== ====== ====== ====== Sacrifices 3-7-38 *3 2-29-38 3-1-1 *3 3-1:1 Theft 2-20-13 *4 3-19 Adultery 2-20-13 *4 3-18 FOOTNOTES *1 Exodus laws in general was stated at Sinai (See 2-19-1) *2 Leviticus laws in general were stated at the Temple Tent(3-1-1) *3 Note how it explicitly states that the sacrifices were stated BOTH at the Temple Tent (3-1-1) and Sinai(3-7-38) *4 Notice how Theft and Adultery have only ONE verse in EXODUS But WHOLE chapters in Leviticus. This is consistent with the principle that only NEEDED EXAMPLES or BARE GENERALITY was mentioned in Exodus but further details were mentioned in Leviticus. As an example only the daily offering was mentioned in exodus (because it had to be offered every day) while the other (e.g. voluntary) offerings were mentioned in Leviticus. {LIST4} {Places where Torah laws are stated} PLACE VERSE BOOK ASSOCIATED WITH THESE LAWS ===== ===== =============================== Sinai 2-19-1 Exodus Laws Temple-Tent 3-1-1 Leviticus Laws Arvoth Moav 5-1-1 Deuteronomy Laws CROSS REFERENCES: 2-19-1 gives another example of Rashi at various levels. 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