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Verses/Topics Discussed in This Issue with quicky explanations
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v4-35-16
          We align the five verses 4-35-16:21. The alignments show
          a dozen differences which sheds light on 3 issues:(a)
          object must be HEAVY, SHARP or FAST enough to kill (b)
          Killing must be DIRECT or REMOVAL OF LIFE CONTINUANCE
          (c)death must be INEVITABLE

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VERSE:  v4-35-16
======

       v4-35-16 if he hit him with an iron implement and he
                dies he is a murderer (and gets the death
                penalty)



       v4b35-17 if he hit him with a HAND STONE THAT CAN KILL and
             he dies he is a murderer (and gets the death penalty)



       v4-35-18 if he hit him with a  HAND WOODEN UTENSIL  THAT CAN
           KILL and he dies he is a murderer (and gets the death
           penalty)

RASHI TEXT:
==========

       v4-35-16  [Rashi makes 2 points]
                First Rashi speaks about the overall structure
                of this chapter, 4-35.

{LIST1} {Overall structure of 4-35}

VERSES          TOPIC             THEMES
==========      ================= ==================================
4-35-9:15       Introduction      Set aside 6 'Murder-refuge' cities
4-35-16:21      Willful murder    Assess murder weapon,hatred etc
4-35-22:23      Accidental murder Assess accidentality
4-35-24:29      Court case        Goes to refuge if accidental


Thus Rashi makes it clear that 4-35-16:21 is speaking about willful
murder (which required the refuge cities also---since both willful
and non willful murderers went to the refuge cities 1st--therefore
the chapter starts with an introduction on refuge cities which
covers both subsequent subsections of willful and inadvertent
murder.

In the second part of Rashi Rashi contrasts the language in
3 verses as follows

  The verses say if he hit him
    >4-35-16 with an     IRON UTENSIL
    >4-35-17 with a HAND STONE        THAT CAN KILL
    >4-35-18 with a HAND WOOD UTENSIL THAT CAN KILL

   Rashi explains that the phrase
        >THAT CAN KILL
   is present by STONE and WOOD but not by IRON because an iron
   object of any size can kill but an object of WOOD or STONE
   can only kill if they are big enough. Rashi also notes
   that UTENSIL is by IRON and WOOD since NEEDLE like utensils
   can kill but stone which is usually not sharpened can only
   kill if it is big enough




       v4b35-17 Rashi contrasts 2 verses
                >if he hit him with a HAND STONE THAT CAN KILL
                >if he hit him with a      STONE

       The extra words "HAND stone THAT CAN KILL" show that we
       must assess lethality before convicting with the death
       penalty





       v4-35-18 Rashi contrasts 2 verses
         >if he hit him with a HAND WOODEN UTENSIL THAT CAN KILL
         >if he hit him with      A ROD

       The extra words HAND UTENSIL THAT CAN KILL show that we
       must assess lethality before convicting with a death
       penalty.


BRIEF BUT COMPLETE NARRATIVE EXPLANATION:
=========================================

In this posting, part of the Golden-Rashi-Rambam series, we review
the Midrashic Halachik literature associated with Rambam Murder 3.
Rambam murder 3 is one of the dozen or so best topics in halacha
for illustrating halachik midrashic technique.  Those students
(or even Rabbanim who ALREADY know quite alot about halachic
midrash) who wish to attain a full understanding of halachic
midrash should seriously study this posting. Also, this
posting shows the carefullness and detail with which the Rambam
payed attention to halachic midrash. Rambam is as detailed as
Rashi and Rashi was as analytic as Rambam.




It is our custom and suggestion in this email list to review the
issues BEFORE studying Chumash, halachah and Rashi. It is only with
a PRIOR understanding of issues that halachic midrash and Rashi can
be appreciated.




There are 3 issues in a murder case
        >Did an ACT of murder take place
        >Whose FORCE was involved
        >How DIRECT was the killing
We first discuss each issue with examples and then show the
derivation from the VERSES.




Almost all derivation will be done thru the method of ALIGNMENT. In
this method we ALIGN similar verses and study the differences
between them. Even according to those opinions that the Torah spoke
in normal conversational style, nevertheless, when two verses are
identical in all but one or two aspects then those one or two
differences demand inferences. In the lists below you can read
each verse individually by going down any column. You can see
the differences in the verses by going across each row.




For an analogy to illustrate this method of alignment we can
think of 4 beds of Roses--the first has a vertical and
horizontal strip of roses cut out (looking like an L). The 2nd
has a circle of roses cut out (looking like an O). The 3rd has
two slanting strips of roses cut out (looking like a V). And the
4th has one vertical and 3 horizontal strips cut out (looking like
an E). We all perceive the garden as spelling LOVE. And this is
true even though it is normally silly to think of gardens and
gardeners as "talking" to you. Because the aligned rose beds
have conspicuous differences we consider this communication
and we consider this communication the simple "pshat"(meaning)
of the text.




So too the verses of the torah are like rose beds and its words
are like roses. If we find (as we do in chapter 4-35) 4 rose
beds(verses) with conspicuous roses (words) cut out then it is
the simple meaning of the text to see communication in these
cut out roses. (This view on SIMPLE MEANING seems to have been
overlooked by such people as Livni and others who have written
extensively on the subject of SIMPLE MEANING). We now go on
to discuss the 3 issues.




The first issue is whether an act of murder took place. Let me
illustrate with 4 examples
        EXAMPLE 1-HEAVY STONE THROWN
        ----------------------------
        >You throw a HEAVY stone on a person and he dies.
        >Then there is a death penalty.
        >Using halachic lingo we say that the court assesses
        >that the heavy stone throw was LETHAL

        EXAMPLE 2-PEBBLE THROWN
        -----------------------
        >But if you throw a PEBBLE on a person and he dies
        >Then there is NO death penalty.
        >Even if you say "I hate you, drop dead and he dies"
        >The reason there is no death penalty is because the court
        >does not assess or perceive you as the CAUSE of DEATH--
        >your throw of a pebble is not a lethal act

        EXAMPLE 3-PEBBLE SHOT
        ---------------------
        >You shoot a PEBBLE (bullet) at a person & he dies
        >There is a DEATH penalty.
        >We assess that the bullet shot was lethal
        >The difference between SHOOTING a pebble and THROWING a
        >pebble is that the SPEED of the pebble (bullet) contributes
        >to lethality.

        EXAMPLE 4-KNIFE
        ---------------
        >You throw not a PEBBLE but a SMALL IRON KNIFE and he dies
        >There is a DEATH penalty. We assess the knife as lethal
        >The difference between the PEBBLE and KNIFE is sharpness

        EXAMPLE 4-continued
        -------------------
        >The reason SHARPNESS affects lethality is the following.
        >Let us say I threw the pebble with 10 pounds of force
        >In other words if I threw the pebble at a scale I could
        >make it move to the 10 pound mark (thus I have 10 pounds
        >of force). This 10 pounds of force is SPREAD over the
        >area of the pebble (say 1 inch square). By contrast
        >when I throw a knife then THE SAME 10 POUNDS OF FORCE
        >is SPREAD over the surface area of the knife point!!!
        >But the knife point may be a 1/100 inch square so that
        >its area is 1/10000 of an inch. Therefore the

        >       PRESSURE = FORCE(MOMENTUM) per UNIT AREA

        >is greater for the knife then for the pebble. The knife
        >has 100 squared less area so the pressure is 10000
        >times higher (10000 pounds per square inch). It would be
        >similar to my putting(riding) a  car on your chest--you
        >would die. Thus we see that PRESSURE not FORCE or WEIGHT
        >determines lethality.




This completes the examples for the first issue in murder--"was
the act lethal?"
        >LETHALITY
is measured by
        >PRESSURE.
PRESSURE in turn is a function of 3 attributes
        >WEIGHT(BIGNESS) of object   (eg the heavy stone)
        >SHARPNESS (SURFACE AREA) of object  (eg the knife)
        >SPEED of object (eg the speeding bullet)
Furthermore PRESSURE is not dependent on
        >MATERIAL
(There is a death penalty whether you threw a 50 pound stone or
a 50 pound ream of paper on someone). Lo and behold corresponding
to these five concepts---WEIGHT, SHARPNESS, SPEED, MATERIAL,
LETHALITY--there are exactly 5 differences in the 4 verses aligned
below.




We now derive this law that LETHALITY=PRESSURE from verses
{LIST2} {Alignment of 5 verses from which we derive the laws
        related to the first issue of murder---was the act
        lethal. Differences may be read across every row. The
        five footnotes correspond to the 5 components of
        PRESSURE that we just enumerated}

      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE   VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-21  2-21-12  ISSUE
==== =======    =======    ========   =======  =======  =====
     and if     and if     and if      or      (he who)

     with a     with a     with a
*A              hand       hand                         SIZE/WEIGHT

*B   utensil               utensil                      NEEDLE

*C   of iron    stone      of wood                      ANY MATERIAL

*D              that can   that can                     LETHALITY
                kill       kill

*E                                     with             FORCE
                                       enmity

     he hit     he hit     he hit      he hit    hits
     him        him        him         him       a man

     ...        ...        ...         ....      ...


     & he died  & he died  & he died   & he died & he died

     ...        ....       ....        ....      ....


     he(the     he(the)    he(the)     he(the)   he(the)
     murderer)  murderer   murderer    murderer  murderer
     dies       dies       dies        dies      dies


FOOTNOTES
----------
        >NOTE *A: 2 verses have HAND--object must be BIG enough
        Space does not allow us to add all the brilliancies of
        Rashi who significantly added to the Sifray. Thus Rashi
        brings in the verse pairs
                >2-21-18 and he hits a friend with a      STONE
                >4-35-17 and he hits a friend with a HAND STONE
                >2-21-20 and he hits          with a      ROD
                >4-35-18 and he hits          with a HAND WOOD
        Further hilighting the emphasis on HAND}




        >NOTE *B: 2 verses have UTENSIL--even a needle can kill

        >NOTE *AB: Note that (4-35-18) has BOTH HAND & UTENSIL.
        >          If the object is pointed like a needle(UTENSIL)
        >          then you don't need to assess size. If the
        >          object is not pointed you do need to assess size
        >          (Brilliancy of the Rambam 3:4 which seems to
        >          have no clear source}

        >NOTE *C: ANY MATERIAL can kill (iron,stone,wood)(Sifray)

        >NOTE *D: 2 verses state "THAT CAN KILL"-this is the
        >         Biblical requirement for assessing LETHALITY.
        >         However iron needles need no assessment since
        >         they can always kill(hence IRON does not have
        >         the phrase THAT CAN KILL)

        >NOTE *E: WITH ENMITY---you assess the FORCE of the blow.
        >         "There is a difference between a hit by someone
        >         who hates and a hit by someone who doesn't hate
        >         The person who hates has more FORCE
        >         (Rambam 3:6)




The second issue in murder is WHOSE FORCE was involved. We give
3 examples

      EXAMPLE 1--The fist
      -------------------
      >I hit a person with my own fist till he dies(There is penalty

      EXAMPLE 2--The wolf
      -------------------
      >I tie the person up before a wolf and the wolf kills him
      >(Although this is considered murder there is no (death)
      >penalty (by courts). We do not assess the person as having
      >(fully and uniquely) committed the murder. The person has
      a defense--"I just tied him up--it wasn't 100% clear that
      the wolf would kill him"

      EXAMPLE 3--The Cliff
      --------------------
      >You push a person off a cliff and he dies(There is penalty)
      >Note that the CLIFF PUSHER also has a defense--"I just
      >lightly shoved him---it was the force of gravity that killed
      >him not me.




This completes the examples for the second issue in murder--"WHOSE
FORCE" was involved. We conclude that LETHALITY is assessed even
when other forces (such as gravity) are involved PROVIDED that
the death was 100% inevitable. (Death by gravity is inevitable;
death by a wolf is probable but not inevitable)




We now derive this from the verses.
{LIST3} {Alignment of 4 verses from which we derive the
        2nd issue of murder--whose FORCE was involved}


      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE
NOTE  4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-20    ISSUE
====  =======    =======    ========   =======    =====
      and if     and if     and if     and if

*A    he hit     he hit     he hit     he pushed
      him        him        him        him


FOOTNOTES
-----
*A The verses clearly state
        >he HITS him
   or
        >he PUSHES him
   Thus whether the
        >whole murder was done by him
        >gravity contributed (another force)
   there is a death penalty

   Since the case
        >tying him up before a wolf
   is not mentioned there is no death penalty for it (though
   it is considered murder)




The 3rd issue in murder is how DIRECT the killing was. Again
we give 3 examples
        EXAMPLE 1-The stab
        ------------------
        >I personally stab him in the heart. Then there is penalty

        EXAMPLE 2-Shield removal
        ------------------------
        >I remove a bullet proof vest AFTER a gun was shot.
        >(Note that death is inevitable from my action)
        >Nevertheless there is no penalty since I
        >       REMOVED A PREVENTOR of death

        EXAMPLE 3-Choking/Starvation
        ----------------------------
        >I tie a person up till he dies by starvation OR
        >I smoke a room till he has no oxygen
        >Even though I did not directly destroy his body
        >but only prevented it from continuing life
        >nevertheless  there is penalty.




This completes the examples for issue 3. To assess lethality, we
need besides
        >INEVITABILITY of death
also
        >DIRECTNESS of killing
either thru
        >destruction of the body (eg stabbing)
        >preventing continuance (starvation, stabbing)
However removal of shields even though it is considered a violation
of THOU SHALL NOT KILL and even though there is INEVITABILITY of
death nevertheless there is no penalty.




We now derive this issue from the verses.

{LIST4} {Alignment of 4-5 verses from which we derive the 3rd
        issue of murder---how DIRECT must the murder be in other
        for it to be assessed as lethal. Details are contained
        in the footnotes.}


      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE       VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-21      2-21-12
==== =======    =======    ========   =======      =======
     and if     and if     and if      or          (he who)

     ...        ...        ...         ...

     with iron  with stone with wood   with enmity

     ...        ...        ...         ...

     he hit     he hit     he hit      he hit      hits
     him        him        him         him         a man

                                       with his
*A                                     hand

     & he died  & he died  & he died   & he died   & he died

     ...        ....       ....        ....        ....


     he(the     he(the)    he(the)     he(the)     he(the)
     murderer)  murderer   murderer    murderer    murderer
     dies       dies       dies        dies        dies



FOOTNOTES:
---------
*A From the one verse where it says WITH HIS HAND we
  infer that there is an assessment of lethality whether
        >the person directly killed him (hit with iron,stone..)
        >the person deprived him of oxygen (chocked with his HAND)
  On the other hand,
        >removal of a shield
  is not mentioned and hence there is no death penalty for it. Death
  penalty does not occur for
        >removal of a preventor of death
  but does happen for
        >direct killing  (stabbing)
        >removal of continuance (chocking,starvation)




We bring one last midrashic derivation which affects the
whole tone of the chapter 4-35.

{LIST5}{Verses displaying the repetitive phrase MURDERER MURDERER}

     VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE     VERSE     VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-20   4-35-21   2-21-12
==== =======    =======    ========   =======   =======   =======
     and if     and if     and if     and if    or        he who

     he hit     he hit     he hit     he pushed he hit    hits a
     him        him        him        him       him       man

                                                with his
                                                hand
     & he died  & he died  & he died            & he died  & he died

     he is a    he is a    he is a              he is a
*A   murderer   murderer   murderer             murderer
     the killer the killer the killer           the smiter
     gets death gets death gets death           gets death getsdeath



FOOTNOTES
*A Note the double language
        >MURDERER KILLER
   in 3 of the 5 verses.




   Recall {LIST6} that double nouns are always interpreted BROADLY.
   Examples are presented in {LIST6}. Hence we are to assess
   not only
        >the lethality of the act of murder
   but we also assess
        >the murderer himself--was he strong or weak
   (And just as we assess the murderer we assess the murdered
   person and wound also).




This completes the review of the halachic midrash on this verse
For a summary of this chapter of Rambam see below {LIST7}.

COMMENTS ON RASHI'S FORM:
=========================
Note that both Rashi and Rambam only skim the surface
of aligning all verses. We suggest that both Rashi
and Rambam expected people to use workbook methods
and do further alignments themselves.

Indeed, Rashi brings 2 verses from Exodus which are
not brought by the Sifray thus illustrating the
workbook method.


Furthermore Rambam derives the distinctions 3:4 from
consequences of all these alignments (See below
for details). Again we warmly encourage students
practicing alignments if they want to master the
study of halachic midrash.


LISTS {For ADVANCED students and for those with more time}:
===========================================================
[Moderator: We reproduce LISTS 1-5 from above. LIST 6,7
are new]


{LIST1} {Overall structure of 4-35}

VERSES          TOPIC             THEMES
==========      ================= ==================================
4-35-9:15       Introduction      Set aside 6 'Murder-refuge' cities
4-35-16:21      Willful murder    Assess murder weapon,hatred etc
4-35-22:23      Accidental murder Assess accidentality
4-35-24:29      Court case        Goes to refuge if accidental


{LIST2} {Alignment of 5 verses from which we derive the laws
        related to the first issue of murder---was the act
        lethal. Differences may be read across every row. The
        five footnotes correspond to the 5 components of
        PRESSURE that we just enumerated}

      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE   VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-21  2-21-12  ISSUE
==== =======    =======    ========   =======  =======  =====
     and if     and if     and if      or      (he who)

     with a     with a     with a
*A              hand       hand                         SIZE/WEIGHT

*B   utensil               utensil                      NEEDLE

*C   of iron    stone      of wood                      ANY MATERIAL

*D              that can   that can                     LETHALITY
                kill       kill

*E                                     with             FORCE
                                       enmity

     he hit     he hit     he hit      he hit    hits
     him        him        him         him       a man

     ...        ...        ...         ....      ...


     & he died  & he died  & he died   & he died & he died

     ...        ....       ....        ....      ....


     he(the     he(the)    he(the)     he(the)   he(the)
     murderer)  murderer   murderer    murderer  murderer
     dies       dies       dies        dies      dies


FOOTNOTES
----------
        >NOTE *A: 2 verses have HAND--object must be BIG enough
        Space does not allow us to add all the brilliancies of
        Rashi who significantly added to the Sifray. Thus Rashi
        brings in the verse pairs
                >2-21-18 and he hits a friend with a      STONE
                >4-35-17 and he hits a friend with a HAND STONE
                >2-21-20 and he hits          with a      ROD
                >4-35-18 and he hits          with a HAND WOOD
        Further hilighting the emphasis on HAND}




        >NOTE *B: 2 verses have UTENSIL--even a needle can kill

        >NOTE *AB: Note that (4-35-18) has BOTH HAND & UTENSIL.
        >          If the object is pointed like a needle(UTENSIL)
        >          then you don't need to assess size. If the
        >          object is not pointed you do need to assess size
        >          (Brilliancy of the Rambam 3:4 which seems to
        >          have no clear source}

        >NOTE *C: ANY MATERIAL can kill (iron,stone,wood)(Sifray)

        >NOTE *D: 2 verses state "THAT CAN KILL"-this is the
        >         Biblical requirement for assessing LETHALITY.
        >         However iron needles need no assessment since
        >         they can always kill(hence IRON does not have
        >         the phrase THAT CAN KILL)

        >NOTE *E: WITH ENMITY---you assess the FORCE of the blow.
        >         "There is a difference between a hit by someone
        >         who hates and a hit by someone who doesn't hate
        >         The person who hates has more FORCE
        >         (Rambam 3:6)
{LIST3} {Alignment of 4 verses from which we derive the
        2nd issue of murder--whose FORCE was involved}


      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE
NOTE  4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-20    ISSUE
====  =======    =======    ========   =======    =====
      and if     and if     and if     and if

*A    he hit     he hit     he hit     he pushed
      him        him        him        him


FOOTNOTES
-----
*A The verses clearly state
        >he HITS him
   or
        >he PUSHES him
   Thus whether the
        >whole murder was done by him
        >gravity contributed (another force)
   there is a death penalty

   Since the case
        >tying him up before a wolf
   is not mentioned there is no death penalty for it (though
   it is considered murder)



{LIST4} {Alignment of 4-5 verses from which we derive the 3rd
        issue of murder---how DIRECT must the murder be in other
        for it to be assessed as lethal. Details are contained
        in the footnotes.}


      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE       VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-21      2-21-12
==== =======    =======    ========   =======      =======
     and if     and if     and if      or          (he who)

     ...        ...        ...         ...

     with iron  with stone with wood   with enmity

     ...        ...        ...         ...

     he hit     he hit     he hit      he hit      hits
     him        him        him         him         a man

                                       with his
*A                                     hand

     & he died  & he died  & he died   & he died   & he died

     ...        ....       ....        ....        ....


     he(the     he(the)    he(the)     he(the)     he(the)
     murderer)  murderer   murderer    murderer    murderer
     dies       dies       dies        dies        dies



FOOTNOTES:
---------
*A From the one verse where it says WITH HIS HAND we
  infer that there is an assessment of lethality whether
        >the person directly killed him (hit with iron,stone..)
        >the person deprived him of oxygen (chocked with his HAND)
  On the other hand,
        >removal of a shield
  is not mentioned and hence there is no death penalty for it. Death
  penalty does not occur for
        >removal of a preventor of death
  but does happen for
        >direct killing  (stabbing)
        >removal of continuance (chocking,starvation)



{LIST5}{Verses displaying the repetitive phrase MURDERER MURDERER}

     VERSE      VERSE      VERSE      VERSE     VERSE     VERSE
NOTE 4-35-16    4-35-17    4-35-18    4-35-20   4-35-21   2-21-12
==== =======    =======    ========   =======   =======   =======
     and if     and if     and if     and if    or        he who

     he hit     he hit     he hit     he pushed he hit    hits a
     him        him        him        him       him       man

                                                with his
                                                hand
     & he died  & he died  & he died            & he died  & he died

     he is a    he is a    he is a              he is a
*A   murderer   murderer   murderer             murderer
     the killer the killer the killer           the smiter
     gets death gets death gets death           gets death getsdeath



FOOTNOTES
*A Note the double language
        >MURDERER KILLER
   in 3 of the 5 verses.




   Recall {LIST6} that double nouns are always interpreted BROADLY.
   Examples are presented in {LIST6}. Hence we are to assess
   not only
        >the lethality of the act of murder
   but we also assess
        >the murderer himself--was he strong or weak
   (And just as we assess the murderer we assess the murdered
   person and wound also).


{LIST6a}{Of Repeated nouns in the same verse (Courtesy of Malbim)*1}

                           THE NOUN REFERS        APPLICATION
                           TO TWO OBJECTS         OF THIS
VERSE     REPEATED NOUN    THAT ARE SIMILAR       PRINCIPLE
          (Is in Caps)     THESE 2 OBJECTS ARE    OF TWO OBJECTS *2
-----     -------------    -------                -----------
3-1-5     Offer BLOOD      Blood in vessel        Even spilled blood
          Throw BLOOD      Blood spilled on floor can be thrown
                                                  on altar (not just
                                                  blood properly
                                                  collected)

3-27-14   Sanctify HOUSE   House=House            These sanctify/
3-27-15   Redeem his HOUSE House=Possesions       redeems laws apply
                                                  Either to a house
                                                  or a house with
                                                  possessions

3-23-32   On EVE of 9th    Eve = After Sunset     Don't eat on the
           From the EVE    Eve = During Sunset    day prior to Yom
                                                  Kippur right up
                                                  to sunset. Rather
                                                  start the fast
                                                  prior to sunset
FOOTNOTES:

* 1
See Chapter 15 of Malbims beautiful Morning Star for a long list of
verses with double nouns--Morning Star occurs at beginning of his
commentary on Leviticus.

* 2
Nouns are never repeated if you can use a pronoun or suffix. There
are a variety of methods of treating double nouns. One of them being
that each noun refers to a DIFFERENT item (as shown in the list
below). In general repetition denotes EMPHASIS. The emphasis can
be by limitation or even by extension. For example, BLOOD BLOOD
denotes ANY blood even if it was spilled out of the temple vessel
HOUSE HOUSE denotes ANY aspect of the house (including its contents)


{LIST6b}{Of verses with A MAN A MAN. All attempts see the repetition
        as denoting a more liberal interpretation. However the
        details of this liberalness have no concensus. Thus Rashi
        simply teaches us the general idea of liberal interpretation
        but leaves out any mention of details}

VERSE  A MAN A MAN means?   SOURCE       SUBJECT OF VERSE
====== ==================== ============ ==========================
3-17-8 2 men do it together Zevachim 108 Offerings outside temple
3-17-3 bisexual people      Zevachim 66  Slaughter outside temple*1
3-18-6 Non Jews             Sanhedrin 57 Incestuous relationships
4-5-12 Even men in prison   Sotah 27     Suspect wife ceremony *2

FOOTNOTES:

*1 Note that even though 3-17-3 and 3-17-8 sound alike nevertheless
   3-17-8 by law applies even if two men together offered up the
   animal while 3-17-3 by law does NOT apply if two men offered
   up the anaimal together. The attempt to apply 3-17-3 to
   women is seen as weak since the general equivalence of men and
   women is learned from more explicit verses in Baba Kama 15

*2 This is NOT the halachah. If the wife of a prison inmate is
   behaving improperly the court does NOT have the right to make
   her go thru the suspect-wife ceremony. The most reasonable
   interpretation of 4-5-12 applies to varied social types...
   the woman must go thru the ceremony whether her husband is
   the possesive type or easy going type.



4-5-12  A MAN A MAN when his wife commits adultery.
        Quite amusingly here the Talmud (Sotah 27) derives that
        the repetition of A MAN A MAN means that the suspected wife
        laws of 4-5 apply to ALL men (even eg men in prison or
        marriages with deaf people etc). I say "amusingly" because
        even though such a midrash is sound and logical it is NOT
        the halacha. Again we can appreciate why Rashi left out
        a midrash which is not accepted halachah.

{LIST6c}{List of verses that have double verbs (courtesy of
        the Babelonian Talmud, Baba Metzia 31). Each verse
        has some word repeated twice--one of the verbs is
        an infinitive and the other is the normal form
        of the verb. This list gives the lesson derived
        from each: The infinitive means ongoing activity
        and means it should be done even 100 times; the
        double verb is interpreted like all double nouns
        --the second verb is different than the 1st and
        denotes that the activity of the verb is done
        EVEN in other circumstances (See {LIST3} for the
        treatment of double nouns)}

VERSE   TOPIC          DOUBLE
                       WORD   INFINITIVE  DOUBLE VERB
======  =============  ====== ==========  ========================
5-22-1  Lost articles  return 100 times   without owner knowledge
5-22-7  Take birds*1   let-go 100 times   even not for food *1
3-19-17 Rebuke sinner  rebuke 100 times   even a student to Rabbi
2-23-5  Help unload*2  unload 100 times   even if owner can't help
5-22-4  Help reload*2  reload 100 times   even if owner can't help
4-25-21 Death penalty  die    100 times*3 even with other deaths*3
5-13-16 Hit city       hit    Long war*3  even with other deaths*3
5-24-13 Security       return 100 times   even if court sanctioned
2-22-25 Security       return 100 times   even if court sanctioned
5-15-8  Charity        open up100 times   even if from other cities
5-15-10 Charity        give   100 times   even if from other cities
5-15-14 Slave freeing  Give   Alot *4     even if you didn't profit

FOOTNOTES:
*1 This refers to finding birds in a nest. If you want the young
birds (for food) then you must let the mother bird go (and even
if she returns) you must repeatedly let her go. From the double
verb the talmud learns that this LETTING-GO law applies even
if you took it not for food but rather say for a sacrifice (I might
not think the mother has to be let go since she could be used for
a sacrifice also).

*2 The Biblical law requires that if you see a fellow Jews with
a loaded donkey then you must help him unload the donkey (to rest
it) and then you must also help him reload the donkey when he
wants to go back on his journey (So there are two obligations:
Loading and Unloading).

*3 There is no Talmudic derivation on the infinitive of placing
to death. But of my own accord I extended the "100 times" theme
to the death penalty---e.g. if you performed the execution and
he still didn't die you would have to perform the execution again
(till he dies)

*4 The Talmud notes that certain opinions did not hold this as
law. That is, if you lost money from the slave (during his work
by you) then you are NOT obligated to give him. This opinion
would hold by NONE of the laws in this list--they hold the
double verb form to be a Hebrew Idiom with no special meaning.

Nevertheless Rashi was faced with a problem. We use most of the
laws on this list. How then do the people who hold that the
infinitive and double verb have special meaning deal with these
verses. Rashi actually answers this question on the sister verse
to 5-15-14, which is 5-15-8.

It says there to GIVE GIVE to the the poor and then repeats
GIVE GIVE (HAAVAYT) his needs. Now the verse continues that you
only give him WHAT HE NEEDS (So if he doesn't need anything you
need not give him). Rashi therefore interprets the double-verb
to mean GIVE HIM ANY WAY YOU CAN... If you can't give him charity
then give him a loan (as e.g. a rich man who isn't eligible for
charity--he should be given a loan). This Rashi on 5-15-8 can
be applied to 5-15-14. According to those opinions that you only
give gifts to a slave when he leaves PROVIDED you didn't lose money
then you would still be obligated to give him a loan (so he can
start off in life).




{LIST7} {Chapter 3 of Murder, Rambam. Each law is listed with
        the verses form which it is derived as well as whether
        Rashi or Rambam cited it. In this particular chapter
        Rambam was much more detailed than Rashi. Nevertheless
        Rashi gives some new derivations not even found in the
        Sifray}

                                            Verse       Is     Is
                                            From        Verse  Verse
                                            Which       Cited  Cited
                                            Paragraph   By     By
Par Text of Paragraph                  Note Is Inferred Rambam Rashi
=== ================================== ==== =========== ====== =====
1   DEATH PENALTY REQUIRES ASSESSMENT
    A) WHAT he hit him with            *1a  4-35-16:18  Yes    Yes
    B) WHERE he hit him                *1b  4-35-16:18  Yes    No

2   C) the FORCE of the hit            *2   4-35-21     Yes    No

3   D) the WOUND itself                *1b
    E) the MURDERER'S STRENGTH         *1b  4-35-16:18  Yes    No
    F) the KILLED PERSON'S STRENGTH    *1b


4   POINTED IRON always can kill       *4   4-35-16:18  Yes    Yes
    However,IRON SLABS are assessed    *4   4-35-16:18  No     No

5   If PERSONAL MURDER(no weapon)      *5   N/A
    A)Assess MURDERER's strength
    B)Assess KILLED PERSON'S STRENGTH
    C)Assess WHAT he hit him with
    D)Assess WHERE he hit him

6   Scriptural derivation of Par 2-5   *6   N/A

7   PUSHING FROM A ROOF:               *7a  4-35-20     Yes    No
    A) Assess ROOF HEIGHT
    (At least 10 handbreadths)
    B) Assess KILLED PERSON'S STRENGTH


8   IN ASSESSING the object of MURDER       4-35-16:18  Yes    No
    --You do     assess its WEIGHT     *4
    --You do not assess its MATERIAL   *4

9   THERE IS A COURT DEATH PENALTY     *9a  4-35-21     NA     NA
    a1)Abe shoved Bob into water
    a2)Bob could not get out
    (But if he could no court penalty)
    b1)Someone shoved Bob into water
    b2)Abe kept him under till death
    c1)Abe pinched Bob's nose
    c2)till he could't breath
    d)Abe tied Bob up in lethal cold
    e)Abe deprived Bob of air supply
    f)Abe smoked Bob to death


10  NO COURT DEATH PENALTY but         *7b  N/A         No     No
    HEAVENLY LIABILITY in ...
    a1) Tie someone up
    a2) He EVENTUALLY starved
    b) Instigated a dog
    c1) Tie him up
    c2) Cold EVENTUALLY came
    c3) He died from cold


11  d1)Abe shot an arrow at Bob        *9b  N/A         NA     NA
    d2)Abe removed Bobs shield
    e1)Abe shoved Bob into a pit
    e2)Abe removed Bob's ladder

12  THERE IS A DEATH PENALTY if        *7c  N/A         NA     NA
    Abe threw a ball at a wall
    It rebounded and hit Bob

13  THERE IS A DEATH PENALTY FOR       *7c  N/A         NA     NA
    a)A missle travelling a trajectory
    b)Pouring water on a tied person






FOOTNOTES
*1a LAW: You must assess WHAT HE HIT HIM WITH
    The verses say if he hit him
    >4-35-16 with an     IRON UTENSIL
    >4-35-17 with a HAND STONE        THAT CAN KILL
    >4-35-18 with a HAND WOOD UTENSIL THAT CAN KILL

    The words THAT CAN KILL emphasize that we must
    assess if the IRON/STONE/WOOD can kill (eg if
    you threw a pebble at a person and he didn't
    die there is no death penalty).

    The Rambam just emphasizes the words THAT CAN KILL
    Rashi is more detailed and eg emphasizes the
    word HAND STONE (has to be big enough).

*1b LAW: You must assess WHAT ORGAN he hit him with
    The sifray learns this from the repeated word
        >he is a MURDERER the MURDERER will die
    which occurs in several verses. The repeated
    word indicates a broad interpretation {LIST6}
    which requires that we not only assess the act
    but we also assess the person (murderer). Since
    the same act may be lethal between one set of
    two people and not between another set. In fact
    we assess
        >the person killing
        >the person killed
        >the place/organ he hit
        >the wound
    This is all derived from the repeated expression
        >MURDERER MURDERER
    Rambam does not cite this verse but the complementary
    phrase
        >THAT CAN KILL
    The Rambam of course does not ignore the sifray but
    rather the Rambam INTERPRETS the sifray--the Rambam
    explain WHAT about the double word
        >MURDERER MURDERER
    is interpreted broadly--namely the murderers capacity
    to inflict a wound
        >THAT CAN KILL
    It is for this reason that the Rambam cites
        >THAT CAN KILL
    throughout the chapter instead of each particular midrash.



*2 The verses emphasize assessing HATRED
   >4-35-16 and if             you hit
   >4-35-17 and if             you hit
   >4-35-18 and if             you hit
   >4-35-20 and if with HATRED you hit
   >4-35-21 and if with HATRED you hit
   >5-19-11 and if with HATRED you hit

   Here Rambam is more detailed then Rashi.
        >The emphasis on HATRED indicates we assess the FORCE
        >since a person who hates hits with more force
   (Thus if a person dies after you tap him with a baseball
   bat there is no death penalty; but if a person dies after
   you vigorously hit him with a baseball bat you do get
   the death penalty).

   Note that the Rambam presents this derivation for the
   laws in Paragraph 2, in Paragraph 6


*4  LAW:Pointed iron can kill; Iron slabs need assessment

    The verses say if he hit him
    >4-35-16 with an     IRON UTENSIL
    >4-35-17 with a HAND STONE        THAT CAN KILL
    >4-35-18 with a HAND WOOD UTENSIL THAT CAN KILL

    Rashi notes that the phrase
        >THAT CAN KILL
    occurs by STONE and WOOD but not by IRON indicating that
    ANY Iron utensil can kill (and needles do not need assessment

    We could go further and note that
        >UTENSIL
   is
        >used by IRON and WOOD
   but not by stone since needles are usually made from IRON & WOOD

   Finally I expressed my opinion above that it mentions
        >BOTH HAND and UTENSIL by wood
   to emphasize that
        >utensils of wood (needles) need no assessment
        >hand held wood (lumber) needs assessment of weight
   I suggested that this verse with wood is the real source
   of the law and that the law emphasizes both WEIGHT and SHARPNESS

   The net effect of these 3 verses is that MATERIAL
        >STONE, IRON, WOOD
   does not determine LETHALITY. Rather
        >WEIGHT
        >SHARPNESS
   determine LETHALITY.
   Thus
        >A big stone kills but not a small stone
        >a small sharp stone kills but not a small blunt stone

   (We further developed the idea of combining the above with
   paragraph 2---the FORCE of the blow. As we showed above in
   ISSUE ONE in {LIST2} the three components FORCE, WEIGHT,
   SHARPNESS combine to form PRESSURE--and it is PRESSURE
   that determines whether LETHALITY takes place)

*5 Par 5 is simply a consequence of the other paragraphs.
   Consequently it needs no verses. The other paragraphs say that
   you assess the WEAPON, PERSON, WOUND, ORGAN, FORCE. Rambam
   simply says that if you personally kill you assess all of these
   except the weapon which is not present.


*6 This paragraph gives the scriptural derivation for FORCE which
   we listed earlier


*7a The verses explicitly state
        >if you hit  him with stone
        >if you hit  him with iron
        >if you hit  him with wood
        >if you PUSH him
   We have shown above that this includes
        >killing by weapon (your force does the killing)
        >killing by pushing (gravity aids in the killing)
   We also explaind that the PUSHER has a defense
        >I didn't kill him. I just pushed him. It was
        >gravity that completed the killing. I didn't
        >complete the murder.
   This argument however is not accepted. By contrast the case of
        >killing by tying up before a hungry wolf
   does NOT get a death penalty

   The underlying determinant for a death penalty if INEVITABILITY
   Killing by a weapon or by gravity both inevitably lead to
   death. But killing by an animal only probably leads to death
   not inevitably.

*7b
*7c These are consequences of the law in Paragraph 7
    >Direct killing or
    >killing with gravity
    get a death penalty.

    Tying someone up before a wolf does not

    Because they are consequences there is no new scriptural
    derivation.




*9a LAW: Killing by HITTING, CHOKING has a death penalty
    LAW: Killing by tying before a starving wolfe does not

    The verses state
        >if he hit him with IRON
        >if he hit him with STONE
        >if he hit him with WOOD
        >if he hit him with his HAND (CHOKING)

    Thus
        >direct killing (eg stab with a knife)
        >removing continuance of life (choke, starve)
    both receive the death penalty.

    But
        >removing a preventor of death(eg removing a shield)
    does not get a death penalty EVEN if death was inevitable
    (So if you remove a shield after an arrow was shot there
    is no death penalty).

    These laws also imply that STARVING, FREEZING, are like
    CHOKING (They prevent continuance of life).

*9b These are consequences of the law in Paragraph 9
    >direct killing (stabbing)
    >removing continuance of life (choking)
    get a death penalty

    >Removing a preventor of death does not get the death penalty
    (Even if it was inevitable)

    Since these are consequences no new scriptural derivation is
    present.


CROSS REFERENCES:
=================
        v1-21-12 in Volume 4 Number 23 cites several earlier
        postings on repetition.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
=================
I believe the idea of distinguishing between a CAUSE and
        >the removal of a preventor
was introduced by the alter rebbe in his shulchan aruch
in the laws of shabbath.

RULE CLASSIFICATION {See the web site for comparable examples}:
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