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From: Russell Hendel <rhendel@saber.towson.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:18:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Argument by AUTHORITY vs by FACT Gilad Gevaryahu (v30n86) and later Professor Tabory responded to my position that all letters of the Torah were preserved with AUTHORITY based responses instead of FACTUAL based responses. Let me briefly illustrate Taking Gilads example, the Talmud states that DROSH DRASH is the *midpoint* of the Bible in words. I suggested interpreting midpoint differently based on a suggestion in Torah Forum. So in this case it would not (as Gilad suggested) be MIDDLE LETTER or MIDDLE WORD but the MIDDLE OF THE DOUBLE WORDS. This is a factual assertion. I am asserting that if you take the list of all consecutive double word pairs in the Bible then DROSH DRASH is the middle one. This assertion is either true or false. Neither Gilad nor Tabory have responded to my FACTUAL assertion. Instead they bring AUTHORITIES who interpret the Talmud the way they suggested. Let me put it this way: I think everyone (including Gilad and Tobory) would have to concede that if DRSH DRSH was the middle of the double Biblical words then the correct interpretation of the Talmudic statement This is the middle of the Torah in words would be "This is the middle double pair of the torah in double pair words". Gilad and Tabory would *at most* have a question on the Talmuds wording but not on the Bible. Similarly Gilad cited *authorities* that we do not understand FULL and DEFICIENT spellings. But I gave a cite that lists all dozen Rashis on this issue and shows a GRAMMATICAL approach using one of two methods. Again my FACTUAL question has not been answered. I again request that this issue be opened up as I think it important But I would like it opened up on a FACTUAL level not on an authority level Russell Hendel; Math; Towson University Moderator Rashi Is Simple; http://www.shamash.org/rashi/