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From: Russell Hendel <rhendel@saber.towson.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:21:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Corporal Punishment Zev Spero in v31n75 states >>>> Even if a student *dies* from corporal punishment by a teacher (even a secular teacher), the teacher has no culpability at all, and does not even have to go into exile, because he did absolutely nothing wrong. >>>> True he doesn't go into exile but I would hardly say he did nothing wrong. In fact the teacher accidentally killed somebody. All Jewish law is saying is that since it is permissable to hit a student therefore we will not find him NEGLIGENT (SHOGAYG)--this does not mean that nothing 'wrong' was done. The person did do an accidental sin and eg requires doing teshuva on Yom Kippur..however the persons 'accidentness' is not enough to make him go into exile. Zev also says that >>>> 24 hours each. *Torah* believes in corporal punishment (`he who spares his stick, hates his son'), and authorises teachers to implement it. >>>> Again--The Torah does not PROHIBIT it---but I do not know that it encourages it. Zev brings the above verse from Proverbs to show that the Torah DOES encourage it. However I would argue that the reasons that eg America stopped corporal punishment in the classroom---they stopped it because teachers used corporal punishment out of hatred and not out of love---would apply to Jews also. Hence, especially since the 'laws of the land are the laws of the land' it follows that we should abstain from corporal punishment Russell Jay Hendel; Phd ASA Moderator Rashi is Simple; http://www.shamash.org/rashi/