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From: Russell Hendel <rhendel@saber.towson.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Some comments on Electricity Two comments on the electricity discussion. 1) Rick Turkel brings the melacha of "completing an object"(Lit. the finishing hammar blows). However we must recall the law that eg while it is prohibited to finish installation of a door in a house on shabbath by closing the door (since that makes that house habitable), nevertheless, it is completely permissable to open and close both doors and windows on shabbath(even though when I eg open a window in the winter I make the house unhabitable and therefore closing the window is putting the finishing touches on the house and making it habitable). The reason for this is that opening and closing windows and doors on Shabbath is considered USAGE not CONSTRUCTION. In a similar manner opening and closing circuits on Shabbath is considered USAGE and is therefore not a violation of COMPLETING THE OBJECT. 2) Let us not forget throughout this dialogue Rabbi Broydes' point in an article he wrote in the Journal of Comtemporary Halachah, that EVEN if there is no foundation for prohibiting electricity nevertheless since Gedolim have already prohibited it it is established as "the way of Israel" and we should continue abstaining (I guess until enough Gedolim undo the former Psaks) Russell Jay Hendel; phd AsA Dept of Math; Towson Univ Moderator Rashi is Simple http://www.RashiYomi.Com/