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From: Russell Hendel <rhendel@saber.towson.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:34:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: Kamatz vs Segol in Geshem

Several discussants (Mike Poppers, Mat Pearlman) in Volume 32 Number 63
point out that the KAMATZ form, GASHEM does occur in Tnach.

But as I understand it (from previous issues in mj on this topic)
the issue is NOT whether the form is legitimate but rather whether
the SENTENCE ENDS at GASHEM.

In other words maybe the prayer should be read
You are Powerful, God, (a) you resurrect the dead,(b) you save
alot (c) you bring rain (Gashem), (d) you feed the living (e)
you resurrect the dead (f) uplift the fallen (g) heal the sick...

Thus there would be no reason to have a major pause by rain! Hence
even if the form is correct we would have a segolate form.

(The alternative reading would be based on 2 sentences:
--You are powerful, resurrect the dead and bring rain.
--You feed the living, resurrect ....

This would view RAIN as a general statement about 'nourishing the
earth' while the particulars would come afterwards)

Russell jay Hendel; Phd ASA
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