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From: Russell Hendel <rhendel@saber.towson.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Artscroll Issue is an old controversy in Pedagogy Chaiim Shapiro eloquently asks >>>It bothers me that I went into a bookstore today to purchase the new Meshichtah I am staring to find the Artscroll in ample supply, but not a single copy of the standard edition. And this is a popular Meshichtah (Baba Metziha)! It bothers to hear stories from yeshivot where the entire Freshman class brought Artscroll gemorahs for the first day of yeshiva, not the standard Gemorahs! I have to wonder, have we, in a worthwhile and admirable attempt to open Talmud study to all, decreased true scholarship?>>> I **agree** with Chaims question but disagree on **what** it is asked. Quite simply Chaim is asking the age old pedagogic question of BREADTH vs DEPTH. Is it "better (pedagogically)" to study a small amount of material but in depth vs studying a large amount of material with just the simple meaning This question is of course well founded. But it is NOT a question on Artscroll but rather a question on pedagogy which has implications for artscroll (If it is not already clear I would encourage discussion of the question with however a focus on WHAT yeshiva bachurim should be learning) Russell Jay Hendel;Phd ASA Moderator Rashi is Simple http://www.RashiYomi.Com